Timeline of "The Big O"

JMA 12-21-2003 04:02 AM
I feel it might help people to better understand Big O if there was a timelime. So, that is the purpose of this thread. Feel free to add on or correct mistakes. Also, please note that this timeline is taken in the "literal" sense. There won't be much metaphysical stuff on it.

Timeline of "The Big O."

10 years before The Event - Dan Dastun is born.

Year 00 - The Event occurs. All humans and android lose their respective memories of everything prior. Dorothy Wayneright is apparently killed during the chaos that follows.

Year 14 - The woman known as "Angel" is born.

Year 15 - Roger Smith is born.

Year 25 - Gordon Rosewater implants memories into an undetermined amount of children. These children later come to be known as "tomatoes." Roger Smith (age ten) is theorized to be one of these tomatoes.

Year 33 - Roger Smith joins the Military Police.

Year 35 - Roger Smith quits the Military Police. Roger becomes a Negotiator. Roger moves into a mansion and meets Norman Burg. Norman reveals to him the Megadeus known as The Big O. Roger soon becomes its pilot.

Year 39 - R. Dorothy Wayneright is created.

Year 40 - Roger meets R. Dorothy Wayneright.

Feel free to add to this list, create your own, or debate the years and/or events.
BigPrime 12-21-2003 07:41 AM
Isn't Dastun 47? Making him born 7 years before the Event?

Also, I'd add: 18 Years Before Event: Dorothy Wayneright born.
R and D 12-21-2003 12:39 PM
let's not forget when alex was born or the construction of the domes took place. also other things how the union started, when was alen converted from a human to a cyborg, how schwarzy found out about big fau or letme rephrase that. when did schwarzy find big duo. the timeline for the big o can be endless and maybe impossible. Confused Shocked
also may i add that the timeline is wrong in age differance. roger is 25 when he meets dorothy. it's suggesting that he's 19-20 when he meets her. i think u may have messed up somewhere.
JAYCZero 12-21-2003 01:17 PM
I'm kind of confused on this but good information setted on this , now I understand a little bit on what happend now what I want to know is how did Roger became Rich to by a Mansion I understand that he was from the Military Police and a Negotiator but that's not going to give him a Mansion so how rich is he and how did he became Rich ?? Confused
Lady Tesser 12-21-2003 01:20 PM
Sorry, R and D, 40 - 15 = 25.

I'd still like an estimate of Alex's bit in the line. How old is he, anyway?

And I think Roger was younger when Gordon implanted the kids. Hmm.
Zopwx2 12-21-2003 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by JCCastellano
I'm kind of confused on this but good information setted on this , now I understand a little bit on what happend now what I want to know is how did Roger became Rich to by a Mansion I understand that he was from the Military Police and a Negotiator but that's not going to give him a Mansion so how rich is he and how did he became Rich ?? Confused


I think in ep 14 he said somthing about being adopted by a rich foster family.
BigPrime 12-21-2003 02:12 PM
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Originally posted by zopwx2
quote:
Originally posted by JCCastellano
I'm kind of confused on this but good information setted on this , now I understand a little bit on what happend now what I want to know is how did Roger became Rich to by a Mansion I understand that he was from the Military Police and a Negotiator but that's not going to give him a Mansion so how rich is he and how did he became Rich ?? Confused


I think in ep 14 he said somthing about being adopted by a rich foster family.


Yeah, he had a rich foster family. That's how he got a good education and paved his way for the Military Police job. They probably set up a trust fund for him or something. And he probably saved up a good deal of the money he made in the police (already having a lot of money to his name), and then there's always severence pay. Probably gave him enough to start up his negotiators business, at the least.

THe Mansion's in the Illegal Residence Zone, so it probably didn't cost much. And it came equipped with penthouse apartment, Megadeus in the basement and Butler/Megadeus mechanic. So it was probably a really good deal.

And his negotiations business probably earns him a pretty penny. He's known to be Paradigm City's best Negotiator. Making his "standard negotiaton fee" a good sized sum. I mean, Jim McGowan from "Day of the Advent" used his entire hotel to pay for it, and most of his clientel seems to be from the upper crust (though he also takes cases from the middle and lower classes).

So all in all, he's well set up to have a lot of money.
Penny Century 12-21-2003 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by JCCastellano
...what I want to know is how did Roger became Rich to by a Mansion I understand that he was from the Military Police and a Negotiator but that's not going to give him a Mansion so how rich is he and how did he became Rich ?? Confused


If you trust the backstory from "Roger the Wanderer," Roger had wealthy foster parents, meaning he probably bought Fort Smith with family money.
JMA 12-21-2003 07:23 PM
I forgot Dastun's exact age, so I just put him at fifty. Forty-seven sounds about right, though.
JMA 12-21-2003 07:31 PM
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Originally posted by R and Dalso may i add that the timeline is wrong in age differance. roger is 25 when he meets dorothy. it's suggesting that he's 19-20 when he meets her. i think u may have messed up somewhere.

Actually, I do have Roger meeting Dorothy at age twenty-five.
BigPrime 12-21-2003 07:48 PM
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Originally posted by JMA
I forgot Dastun's exact age, so I just put him at fifty. Forty-seven sounds about right, though.


Personally, I always put him around 40. Until I read the script for that Big O play, "Walking Together Down the Yellow Brick Road". It puts him at 47, and since it was written by one of the creators, I think it can be taken at face value.

Hmm...other events that can be included:

39 Years After Event: Buy Out Riots Occur- Lt. Bonnie Frazier believed killed.

18 Years After Event: Jason Beck aka Beck Gold is born.

Immediately after Event: Norman Burg begins his care of Big O beneath what will be Roger's Mansion.
JAYCZero 12-21-2003 10:37 PM
Man My Question Statement must be the most Demanding of this Topic . Thanks Guy's for the Answer But is Billionare like Bruce Wayne ? or is Millionare ? and how do you guy's know bout this ? you People are Smart !
Zopwx2 12-21-2003 10:39 PM
I don't think he is THAT rich. Becuase the dome dwellers still seem to look down on him. And he doesn't carry with him too much authority.
BigPrime 12-21-2003 10:53 PM
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Originally posted by zopwx2
I don't think he is THAT rich. Becuase the dome dwellers still seem to look down on him. And he doesn't carry with him too much authority.


I think the domedwellers look down on Roger because he makes a point of living outside the domes. He's clearly got plenty of money (he can put down $1500 for a coat on a whim in Daemonseed), but he prefers to do his own thing and live where he wants rather than where society would dictate he lives.
trekkieb47 12-22-2003 10:33 AM
Aside from the "adoptive family" thing (did they actually asay it was a RICH adoptive family?) ... I thought it was because Roger found his house... and since it was an old bank, found a ton of cash that may have been forgotten about during the "Event".

Berry
Zola 12-22-2003 10:36 AM
I had some time to do some digging on the Official Big O site. Yes, it's in Japanese, but for this stuff, the Babelfish Translator works just fine.

For ease in navigating:

Go to the main site and make sure you are on "Library".

On the navigation menu to the left, there is an entry with the word "NEW" in neon green. The link just below that has the bios of the main characters in the series.

The fourth link down from that "NEW" link has info on the minor characters of every episode.

Feel free to doublecheck my figures, there was a lot there!

Note: In some cases, only a Japanese characters for a name are given and the name of the person is not mentioned in the show. In such a case, I give the closest approximation I can come up with.

For example, the name of the slumlord who Roger is negotiating with on behalf of the elderly woman (Underground Terror, beginning of ep) translates to Lobby Carmine, which, given the R/L mixups has got to be Robby. Smile

**This is way too long to do at once, so I will add to this list, or feel free to look up some of the names and add to it!**


Year - 34 - Melissa Fraser (Bonnie Frazer's mother) is born

Year -32 - Timothy Wayneright is born

Year -18 - Miguel Soldano is born

Year -14 - Norman Burg is born

Year -09 - Big Ear is born

Year -07 - Dan Dastun is born.

Year -03 - Alex Rosewater is born, Rick Fraser (Bonnie Frazer's older brother) is born

Year 00 - The Event occurs. All humans and android lose their respective memories of everything prior. Dorothy Wayneright is apparently killed during the chaos that follows.

Year 02 - Dale (the bartender at the speakeasy) is born

Year 04 - Bonnie Fraser is born

Year 06 - Robby Carmine in born (slumlord at the beginning of Underground Terror)

Year 14 - The woman known as "Angel" is born.

Year 15 - Roger Smith is born.

Year 18- Jason Beck is born

Year 25 - Gordon Rosewater implants memories into an undetermined amount of children. These children later come to be known as "tomatoes." Roger Smith (age ten) is theorized to be one of these tomatoes.

Year 33 - Roger Smith joins the Military Police.

Year 35 - Roger Smith quits the Military Police. Roger becomes a Negotiator. Roger moves into a mansion and meets Norman Burg. Norman reveals to him the Megadeus known as The Big O. Roger soon becomes its pilot.

Year 39 - R. Dorothy Wayneright is created.

Year 40 - Roger meets R. Dorothy Wayneright.
A Clockwork Tomato 12-22-2003 11:23 AM
Is my math failing me, or does this mean that the human Dorothy was born when her father was fourteen years old?
BigPrime 12-22-2003 11:28 AM
I wonder if some of those things are a little off after Season 2.

For instance, Act 14 has Norman maintaining Big O since the Event. If he were 54 as originally stated, he's been maintaining the Megadeus since he was 14.

Alex's age also seems a little off after Season 2. He'd be 28 at the time of the tomato experiment. Of course, he could've been simply from an earlier crop.
Zopwx2 12-22-2003 11:36 AM
It always goes back to act 26, that basicly messes everything up. For all we know nothing even happend before forty years ago and all their ages were made up.

oooo post #666
BigPrime 12-22-2003 12:25 PM
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Originally posted by zopwx2
It always goes back to act 26, that basicly messes everything up. For all we know nothing even happend before forty years ago and all their ages were made up.

oooo post #666


Well, to be fair, it's Act 14 that messes Norman's age up rather than Act 26. He easily could've been 54 before that time, and just looked 70. But him saying he's been maintaining Big O for 40 years really throws a monkey wrench in that gear. I can't imagine a 14 year old Norman spending all his time in a run down bank fixing a giant war machine. I mean, I know it's a mecha anime and all, but this isn't Gundam we're talking about. Teenage mecha pilots need not apply. Wink